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23ting har alt i alt været en rigtig god oplevelse! Nogle ting kendte jeg meget til, noget vidste jeg hvad var, og noget var helt nyt for mig.
De forskellige opgaver i forløbet var godt fundet på, beskrivelserne fine og tiden passende. Dog kom man ofte bagud med diverse opgaver, da ens arbejde trods alt kommer i første række og det til tider brændte lidt på. Derfor var det også en god ide at indlægge nogle pauser, så man fik tid til at samle op på sine opgaver.
Flere af de gennemgåede ting kan jeg helt klart bruge i fremtiden, andre ikke. Det handler bl.a. om vaner og om hvor meget tid man egentlig bruger i pc-skærmens skær.
Og hvem ved hvad de næste par år bringer i form af gadgets, widgets, feeds og alle de andre smarte ord der skal gøre det "lettere" for os i hverdagen. For begynder man ikke lige pludselig at bruge meget mere tid på alle disse vidunderlige elektroniske tidsbesparere? Lidt af et paradoks.
Men sjovt, det er det sgu!
UHA 23ting har været sjovt, frustrerende, udfordrende og debatskabende. Det er ikke gået stille for sig i Team Samfund. Vi er i fuldt gang med at bruge vores teamblog, hvor vi blandt andet har diskuteret handlingsplan. Men fandt aldrig helt ud af hvad vi skulle bruge chatten til... En fjernlånsblog/wiki (eller hvad det nu bliver) er undervejs - så når man ser hvor vi var som udgangspunktet, er vi blevet løftet op i himlen. Det eneste der kræves er, at vi kan se relevansen for vores arbejde - og så er det fandeme fedt at kunne prale med sin viden om Utube, blogs og alt det andet. . .
23ting har også været en god oplevelse for mig, men jeg har også valgt at det skulle være det, og jeg har prioriteret at sætte tid af til det. Tid synes jeg er en meget vigtig faktor i denne sammenhæng. Der SKAL sættes tid af til det! Efter min mening også mere end en time om ugen, hvis man virkelig skal få noget ud af det. Jeg har været så heldig at min ledelse har bakket utrolig meget op om 23ting, og det har været i orden at Bente og jeg stort set har brugt en hel formiddag på 23ting hver eneste uge. Men den formiddag er jo ikke kommet ud af den blå luft, andre ting er blevet nedprioriteret i denne periode. For mit vedkommende er det gået ud over SpørgOlivia, og det har jeg på en måde været lidt træt af, men jeg indså hurtigt at jeg ville ende med at gøre begge ting halvt hvis jeg skulle prøve at nå begge dele. Peter skriver i sin evaluering at man ofte kom bagud fordi ”ens arbejde trods alt kommer i første række”… Jeg forstår udmærket godt hvad han mener, men jeg har alligevel valgt at se 23ting som mit arbejde, og jeg er taknemmelig for at jeg har fået lov til det. Jeg synes også vi skal se 23ting som et stykke arbejde, ellers har der vel ikke været nogen mening med det hele!?Uden at vide det har jeg en fornemmelse af at ikke alle har været ligeså heldige som jeg. Alle har måske ikke ”fået lov” til at bruge den tid 23ting i virkeligheden kræver, og det synes jeg er synd og klart noget man skal tænke over til en anden gang.
En anden ting som for mig har været altafgørende for at jeg har gennemført 23ting på nomineret tid er teamwork! Og det siger jeg ikke bare fordi Bente og jeg har vundet en flaske vin for godt teamwork :-) Jeg er fuldstændig overbevist om at jeg var kommet langt bagud hvis ikke vi havde haft det gode samarbejde. Ikke bare det at man har en at diskutere tingene med, men f.eks. var der en uge hvor jeg simpelthen ikke orkede 23ting fordi jeg havde været på kursus hele ugen, og synes der var mange andre ting jeg kunne bruge min fredag formiddag på. Men Bente nærmest tvang mig i gang og det er jeg meget glad for nu. Så endnu mere opfordring til teamwork til næste gang.
En anden ting man kunne overveje til en anden gang er at skifte lidt mere mellem typerne af opgaver. Især i starten hvor vi havde rigtig meget med hvordan man kan samle nyheder, bogmærker, dokumenter m.m. som alt sammen stort set kunne gøres fra sin iGoogle. Her synes jeg godt det kunne blive lidt ensformigt og langtrukkent, det kunne være blevet brudt med noget musik eller billeder… men igen, det kan måske også skabe mere forvirring??
Til sidst må man jo så se på om det vi har lært i 23ting overhovedet kan og vil blive brugt i det faglige arbejde? Ja det tror jeg faktisk – hvis man vil det. Allerede nu har jeg brugt meget af det jeg har lært og jeg tror det vil fortsætte. F.eks. har jeg brugt YouTube ift. et SpørgOlivia spørgsmål, billedredigering til vores hjemmeside, og i Arden har vi allerede brugt Google Dokumenter flere gange. Blandt andet har vi lige nu et fælles dokument der hedder ”Kulturnat 2009” hvor vi skriver gode idéer ned så vi ikke glemmer dem inden 2009.
En lang smøre fra mig, men nu har jeg kun tilbage at sige stort TAK til tovholderne på 23ting, jeg synes I på alle punkter har gjort et fantastisk stykke arbejde!
Hej initiativtagere til 23-Ting !
Siden web-revolutionen for alvor tog fat i begyndelsen af 90´erne, har min anvendelse af mediet næsten udelukkende været i forbindelse med mit daglige arbejde, internettet har været et ARBEJDSREDSKAB, som jeg i nødens stund tyede til, når min Danbib-søgning og mine "kære" gamle trykte referenceværker ikke gav resultat.
Jeg overdriver ikke, når jeg hævder, at det har været skelsættende for mig at få kendskab til web 2.0 teknologierne og social computing. Selv om jeg retfærdigvis ikke kom op på medaljeskamlen - dertil var konkurrencen for hård - så lykkedes det mig dog at komme i mål med løftet pande, hvilket mangen en marathonløber har måttet opgive.
"Don´t panic" har været mit udgangspunkt i opgaveforløbet, da jeg næppe var kommet i gang med de første udfordringer, før popup-billeder à la "You are not allowed to...", "try again" etc. forstyrrede mit blik. Der blev heldigvis hurtigt fri bane igen, fortvivlelse blev afløst af lettelse og til tider en følelse af højstemthed!
Web 2.0 konceptet med at få andre/brugerne i tale via nettet, at få andre personer til at reagere på ens udsagn og at kommentere på dette og hint åbner op for helt nye formidlingsformer.
Tak er kun et fattigt ord men en dybfølt tak til NJL og de dygtige eksperter for at have søsat og afviklet det mest kompetencegivende IT-projekt, undertegnede har deltaget i. Jeg har allerede ved flere lejligheder i mindre doser delagtiggjort venner og bekendte i min nyerhvervede viden om blogs og seje musik- og video-sites.
Jeg indrømmer gerne at jeg var en sløv starter. Det var lidt hårdt at komme i gang og især at nå tingene til tiden. Derfor er det godt at opgaverne konstant ligger på siden, så man kan tage fat der hvor man nåede til.
Det har givet mig et løft og selvtillid at komme omkring de 23 ting. Det er dejligt at få lov til at få fingrene ned i de nye begreber i arbejdstiden.
Nu hvor vi er oppe i fart, er det ærgerligt at skulle stoppe. Hvad med om vi en gang om måneden fortsat kan blive udfordret og holdt ajour med de nye ting på nettet? Lad konceptet fortsætter med en mail hver måned med introduktion, eksempler og opgaver. Måske kan vi tippe redaktørerne, når vi falder over et nyt begreb, som vi gerne vil have uddybet. Jeg kunne f.eks. godt tænke mig at gå mere i dybden med faglige netværk på nettet såsom LinkedIn.
I skal i hvert fald have tak for denne gang. Det er godt gået. I har været 3 mand om at løfte en hel organisation.
Kort og godt - jeg (vi?) er klar til mere! (Også skrevet i sandet - på bloggen). Der er sagt mange gode ting her i evalueringskommentarerne som jeg er enig i - og specielt støtter jeg den med den månedlige udfordring.
Og takketakketak til hovederne bag 23tingnordjylland og også tak for inspiration fra medbloggere :) Den lille frø har nydt at hoppe rundt!!
Det har været rigtig sjovt at være med i 23ting:
Jeg har stiftet bekendtskab med mange ting, som jeg kun havde hørt om i forvejen, og jeg vil helt sikkert arbejde videre med dem både fagligt og privat.
I min BNG-gruppe har vi nu oprettet en blog: 'Forum for BNG's fagredaktion for Sundhed og Sygdom', så vi hurtigt og nemt kan udveksle erfaringer og ideer.
Det er imponerende så mange muligheder, der er med ALT inden for nyheder, billeder og lyd - og alle de forskellige former og niveauer, der kan netværkes på o.s.v.
Der kommer hele tiden nye spændende ting til, så hvis vi stadig skal være helt fremme i skoene, vil det være godt, hvis der kommer nogle mindre supplerings-forløb, f.eks. '5nyeting' én gang om året. Især for os i de små afdelinger, som ikke lige hører de nye tips & tricks fra kollegaerne på kontoret eller i kantinen.
Det giver en god "fornemmelse" at være på forkant med Web 2.0 - og min søn kiggede nu også noget, da "mutter" pludselig dukkede op på Facebook!
Hvor heldig kan man være!!
I mit "biblioteksliv" indtil videre har jeg været så utrolig heldig, at der med passende mellemrum er dukket udfordringer op, som det har været en sand fryd at tage livtag med. Den første spæde Edb-begyndelse, hvor der kunne søges i fællesbase, senere bibliotekssystemerne, internettet og nu 2.0.
Dette kursus har netop været det skub, der skulle til, for at jeg kunne bevæge mig lidt længere ind i alle de fancy ord, som jeg stødte på rundt omkring.
Afvikling og udbytte af kurset har meget været op til én selv og gode kolleger! På Arden Bibliotek har det samlede personale været igennem forløbet, og det har været et løft for os alle. Vi har nærmest opdaget en ny verden derude, og det har været rigtig sjovt!
Super at programmet bliver liggende fremover, det kan både bruges til genopfriskning og til støtte for en lokal tovholder, der nu skal have et nyt hold igennem forløbet. Jeg vil uden blusel kopiere jeres måde at styre tingene på, det har været forbilledligt. Endnu en gang tak for indsatsen!!
Som skrevet står på min blog, gik jeg nok lidt i stå efter - netop - bloggen, dvs den bliver opdateret løbende, men de efterfølgende opgaver har jeg mere fået kigget på end løst.. Jeg har aldrig været nogen edb-freak og bliver det næppe heller efter 23-ting, men jeg har fået større viden om hvad man kan, og at det trods alt er til at finde ud af. På en måde har det været godt at opgaverne er strømmet ind i en lind strøm, for hvis de var blevet strukket ud over en længere periode, var der nok risiko for, at man ikke kunne holde interessen fangen, måske??
Hej.
Blogs og iGoogle har været det sjoveste og mest relevante for mig.
F. eks. har vi som laver BNG sundhed og sygdom lavet en blog.
Er nået til og med Picasa. Resten må forhåbentlig komme senere.
Det har indimellem været noe` kun` sejt at finde/tage tid til 23ting.
Noget har jeg arbejdet mere med end andet. Og noget er allerede en lille smule glemt. Jeg er ikke udpræget IT nørd, men nok mere en "praktisk gris."
Samlet opfatter jeg 23ting som en god, spændende mulighed og introduktion til nyt.
Tiden fremover skal vise, hvad jeg skal/har lyst til at bruge af det.
Kære redaktører!
Det har været et rigtigt fint forløb, som jeg har deltaget i med stor fornøjelse. Noget kendte jeg i forvejen, men meget var helt nyt, og jeg har kastet mig over det meste med stor nysgerrighed. Har fået oprettet 3 blogs ialt, den ene til stor glæde for bl.a. vores lille private vinklub - nu har vi altid styr på datoer, programmer osv.
Sikke' en chance at få - 1000 tak for det!!
Hej Treogtyvetingnordjyllandsbosser!
Jeg synes, der har været et vældig spændende projekt at være med i. Vi hos os i Rebild Bibliotekerne har vi allerede sat lidt gang i to lokale blogs om litteratur og læsekredse og en for børn. Vi har haft meget snak og grin ud af at arbejde med opgaverne. Det har givet meget ny viden og været bevidsthedudvidende.
Jeg synes, det med bloggene rummer mange muligheder. Derudover har jeg været meget optaget af Wiki, Librarytingen, Rss, billeder, musik, podcasts, netradio, My Space, YouTube og Facebook.
Jeg har haft det sjovt undervejs, har klukleet alene og sammen med andre undervejs, har kigget, lyttet, prøvet og og tilmeldt mig en mængde forskellige tjenester. Jeg har nok brugt mere tid end jeg umiddelbart havde troet, jeg ville, for der er en stor facinationskraft og nytteværdi ved mange af tingene. Jeg må nok siges at være blevet grebet af mange af opgaverne, og der er mange ting, jeg vil vende tilbage til. Opgaverne har været brandgodt formuleret og uhyre hjælpsomme. Jeg fik faktisk mere end opfyldt mine forventninger.
Jeg synes arbejdsformen sagtens kunne bruges i andre forløb fremover, og jeg foreslår en opfølgning senere.
Jeg har givet linket til projektet videre til lederen af vores Kulturskole, og han overvejer at gennemføre et lignende forløb for sin skole, hvor de ansatte jo også er ret spredte.
Elsebeth gjorde mig iøvrigt i dag opmærksonm på Google Bogsøgning, som I faktisk alle burde kende, hvis I da ikke allerede gør det.
Det var et sidespring. Tak for 23 rigtig skægge, fængende og interesseskærpende ting.
Fra en af jeres mere end 23 fans: Mogens Yde
Jeg var "flyvende" den dag min blog gik i luften. Husker tydeligt hvordan jeg også derhjemme lige måtte ind og tjekke og forsøge med en ny opsætning eller link. Der blev arbejdet både weekend og tidligt om morgenen.
Jeg har anvendt Google mail i adskillige år. Kunne ikke arbejde uden. Men Google docs og reader var dejlige nyheder for mig. Og er nu fast indarbejdede redskaber i mit daglige arbejde.
Billeder og lyd bragte mig lidt ned på jorden igen. Jeg er dog nysgerrig og vil gerne blive bedre til at arbejde med disse faciliteter. Så derfor har 23ting for mig været en øjenåbner, og bare alle de gode vejledninger bliver liggende på bloggen, er det nemt at vende tilbage til, når lysten og behovet er der.
ps: I privat sammenhæng er det godt nok en tidsrøver af rang - men sjovt!
Hej
Det har været sjovt og givende.
Især vil jeg fremhæve undervisningsformen. Det at få en beskrivelse, en vejledning og nogle opgaver, og så ellers få lov at nørkle med det selv, på et tidspunkt hvor man er oplagt, og der er ro på kontoret. Det har passet mig utrolig godt. Meget mere givende end en demonstration i et undervisningslokale. Jeg håber, det er en form, der vil blive brugt i anden sammenhæng også. Vejledningerne har været virkelig gode. Stor ros fra mig.
Jeg synes kurset har været fint og for det meste, har vejledningerne også været gode. Flere af tingene bruger jeg ind i mellem eller anbefaler brugerne.
Kurset er ideelt til afvikling i en stille stund på et kontor.
Det faktum gjorde det til en ret pinefuld oplevelse for mig, da jeg hverken har kontortid eller kontor. Dette kursus du´r bare ikke i et udlån. Det meste af det, blev derfor til noget underligt udlåns- og natteroderi (der blev helt umulig i december/januar) for mit vedkommende og min lokale kursuskollega gik det ikke meget bedre.
Lokalt kunne jeg altså godt bruge et par dedikerede arbejdsdage, hvor man bare fik lov at være i fred med forløbet, for mere er der såmænd ikke i det. På den anden side kan jeg godt se, at det ikke stemmer overens med de generelle forventninger og muligheder folk har og kursets intention.
Kurset i sig selv har været god oplevelse og skriger næsten på en fortsættelse, men om jeg ta´r en tørn igen, ved jeg ikke. En god ide var måske Tines ide med en månedsmail med månedens nye ting/dims/dippedut. Den ville jeg ihvertfald tilslutte mig og den der ager med stude kommer jo også frem til sidst.
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